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KRON
Feb 12, 2013 11:00pm PST
that replaces reckless cuts with smart savings and wise investments >> reporter: on foreign policy, the president announced a major troop withdrawal from afghansitan -- 34,000 by this time next year. on immigration reform, he pushed for a path to citizenship for the 11 million illigal immigrants currently in the u.s. >> "each of these proposals deserves a vote in congress." >> reporter: and on gun control - he made it clear he wants action. >> "the families of oak creek, and tucson, and blacksburg, and the countless other communities ripped open by gun violence - they deserve a simple vote." >> reporter: following the president's speech, it was the republicans' turn. florida senator marco rubio delivered his party's message. >> "as you heard tonight, his solution to virtually every problem we face is for washington to tax more, borrow more and spend more." >> reporter: president obama said that none of the ideas proposed in his speech would increase the deficit by what he called a single dime. republicans were quick to point out that none of the ideas carried a price tag, just yet.
NBC
Feb 15, 2013 5:00am EST
measures. >>> john kerry will make his first foreign policy speech at the university of virginia. the state department says kerry will speak next wednesday about the importance of u.s. diplomacy. will be the first in a series he'll deliver across the country. >>> right now, nasa keeping a close eye on an astroid that's supposed to have a close call with earth. it's called 2012-da 14. will pass a little more than 17,000 miles from the earth's surface. it's about 150 feet in diameter, weighs about 143,000 tons. it is the closest an astroid of that size has come to earth in a century. experts are fairly confident it will miss us. >> fairly confident or absolutely confident? come on, tom. there's a big difference. we don't want it anywhere near earth, right? >> that's what the dinosaurs thought. it's going to be missing us. based on our technology and trajectory, looks like it will miss us. coming close later today. might be a breeze. upper 20s, light breeze right now on the surface. in the mid-20s parts of northern virginia. near 30 degrees in arlg -- it's cold near or below freezing from west
NBC
Feb 15, 2013 6:00am EST
of virginia to make his first foreign policy speech as secretary of state. he will address students and staff next wednesday. it will be followed by a series of speeches across the country. he will also make his first overseas trip as secretary of state to europe and the middle east. >>> today is a busy day for president obama. first he'll welcome italian president to the white house. napolitano is about to leave office after serving a seven-year term. the obama administration calls the visit a "farewell call". >> then the president flies to his hometown of chicago. there he will visit a school in the same area where he owns a home. he's expected to detail economic conditions. as well as push for a vote on gun control in congress. >>> in space terms, it is close. an asteroid the size of a football field is about to blow past earth. were this could be a great learning experience. >> breaking news on the roads right now. a big problem on the beltway. you see a live picture here. an update on weather and traffic on the 1s. next the golf course looks more >>> they look brilliant around the course
CBS
Feb 12, 2013 7:00am EST
in office he was at the center of vigorous debate over foreign policy and penhanced interrogation. we discussed the criticism. bush administration's record. the obama administration if they were listening to you now, as they -- >> i doubt it. >> they would say, you know what, one of our foreign policy successes is, it was a terrible attitude toward the united states because of iraq. we've had to rebuild confidence in the united states. that was the legacy of the bush administration. >> and the question is? >> what do you say to that? >> well -- >> he claimed that as a single lar foreign policy achievement. >> i think the president came to power with a world view that's different. >> how? >> the sense that he wanted to reduce u.s. influence in the world, wanted to take us down a peg, that he felt -- >> he hasn't said that he wants to reduce u.s. influence in the world. >> no, but -- >> never have i heard him say i want to reduce the u.s. influence in the world. >> you never heard him call himself a liberal before the election. >> everything that comes out of you today is a legitimate p
CNN
Feb 13, 2013 11:00pm PST
editor for foreign policy magazine. a lot of sources in the pentagon and he just wrote this about chuck hagel, quote, his big problem is that tho one much wants him running the pentagon. the prospect is a real problem now because the next secretary of defense will need to work with congress to reduce the defense budget and work with the military to reshape it to make it relevant for future conflict. at the moment, he appears to lack the political capital and the intellect yul appetite to do the latter. do you think chuck hagel can run the pentagon? >> my inclination has been to give the president the prerogative of deciding who's in his cabinet. i voted for john kerry although i don't agree with much he represents as far as a u.s. senator, but i think he's an honest person and i think the president has the right to decide. with regard to hagel, my first inclination was to give him the benefit of the doubt. i'm for auditing the pentagon. i think there is waste to be found. he's a soldier. served honor bly. i'm starting to have doubts and they are that if you going to run department of de
MSNBC
Feb 11, 2013 3:00am PST
, had choice words for the president's foreign policy team. i'm not sure i agree with that. in "the new york times," a great must-read, quietly killing a consumer watchdog. it's how the republicans are just doing everything they can not to have the consumer financial protection bureau that was created by elizabeth warren under president obama actually function because it would keep them, quite frankly, from being able to get their money from all their donors on wall street. and they do not want to lose the people who helped them out. so they want to make sure that the consumer suffers so that they can gain politically. it's a good one. take a look at it. coming up -- >> we're also going to talk about nancy pelosi saying we don't have a spending problem, and the problem with medicare is not medicare. we've got a lot to talk about straight ahead. >> gail collins of "the new york times" joins us straight ahead. >> she's got a great column. >> i love it. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely,
MSNBC
Feb 15, 2013 3:00am PST
've covered foreign policy in washington for a long time. can you put this into some kind of perspective, historically? how rare is it for this to happen to a president's nominee? >> well, this is very rare. i mean, it's unprecedented. i covered the john tower nomination. he was the former chairman of the committee of the armed services committee. and that was also something that john mccain brought up yesterday. that's part of the grudge match. he wasn't filibustered because the administration just lost that one. but this filibuster with a recess permits the opposition to keep upping the ante. i mean, one of the things that you and joe are pointing out here is that every time chuck hagel turns a corner, they're flowing something else up there. benghazi wasn't even on his watch. they used it to try to get leverage. to try to get more information about what the president did on that night. did he go to bed? was he calling the pentagon? who was in charge? something that they could have asked in another context. they did get a letter from the white house lawyer yesterday which responded at
CNN
Feb 12, 2013 9:00am PST
the arab spring. what are you listening for tonight when it comes to foreign policy? >> well, in foreign policy i think the point jake has made and broken is probably the most important one. i doubt very much you'll hear much about north korea. there will be a condemnation, i imagine. we've been through this, watched this dance before. new leader comes into north korea, needs to show his stuff, needs to consolidate the -- his support with the military, which is the backbone of the military dictatorship, so they do something provocative like this. everyone condemns it. chinese will condemn it but they're the only country who can do anything about it because north korea's the most isolated country in the world and china doesn't want it to collapse. though china provides it with energy and food, it's not going to do anything. so obama doesn't have much actionable he could talk about. with regard to iran, they feel as though they've got the pressure on iran. they are watching to see what happens. and i don't think there's going to be much percentage in talking a great deal about situations t
CSPAN
Feb 13, 2013 7:00am EST
, manufacturing, immigration. he talked about foreign policy issues as well. here's the new york times with a little history about the state of the union addresses. ronald in kentucky, independent. what are your thoughts on the state of the union? caller: i liked what he set about raising the minimum wage and immigration reform and some of the others things. i am a little frustrated with congress and why they cannot get their act together and work together to get things done. host: what would you like to see them get done? caller: i would like to see them get things done, not taking so long to get the budget under control. instead of all this talk about cutting benefits, cutting things there. i never heard nobody mentioned nothing about so much money the u.s. is sending overseas to these other countries. out others, helping doing my part. but before you start cutting people that have worked all their lives to support the united states, start looking overseas and seeing where you are sending the money. host: budget experts have said the foreign aid makes up less than -- it's not even do
CSPAN
Feb 13, 2013 12:00pm EST
and foreign policy organizations. at his january 31 nomination hearing, before the armed services committee, senator hagel was enthusiastically introduced and endorsed by two former chairmen of our committee, chairmen who have huge bipartisan support and respect by everybody in this body and everybody outside of this body who knows them, and those two chairmen are sam nunn and john warner. senator hagel's nomination has been endorsed by five former secretaries of defense who served under both democratic and republican presidents, bob gates, bill cohen, bill perry, harold brown and melvin leery. he has been endorsed by three former secretaries of state, madeleine albright, colin powell and george shultz, and by six former national security advisors who served in that position for more than 20 years under six of the last seven presidents. let me just share with our colleagues a few of the words of senator nunn when he introduced senator hagel to our committee. senator nunn said that i believe that our nation is fortunate to have a nominee for secretary of defense with the character, the exper
CNN
Feb 12, 2013 8:00am PST
's a surprise to the foreign policy and military people that north korea is a threat and has these nuclear ambitions. i think that president obama actually for many years even going back to the senate and before, was very focused on this issue of nuclear proliferation. and it's the kind of thing that you can talk about in a speech like this, because it isn't only about legislation and what can get passed in the here and now. it's also domestically and in foreign terms kind of what do you want the country to know and what do you want it to do. >> let me ask the difference between doing an inaugural address and the state of the union, you have worked on both of these addresses before. have you ever done both and had to differentiate? i want to know about the mechanics of what it is like for someone like you, to have to craft two extraordinarily important speeches that are heard on a world stage and do they have alternating missions? >> they do a bit have alternating missions, obviously an inaugural address is more formal. it's outdoors. it speaks in some ways to grander themes and longer tim
FOX News
Feb 14, 2013 6:00pm PST
. >> i don't know. >> when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam. were you correct or incorrect, yes or no? >> my reference to the-- >> can you answer the question, senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong that's a pretty straight forward question, i'd like the answer whether you're right or wrong and they are you're free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no. >> what do you think that the iranian foreign ministry so strongly supports your nomination to be secretary of defense? defense? >> i have a difficult enough time with american politics and senator, i have no idea. >> do you think it's appropriate for the chief civilian leader of the u.s. military forces to agree with the statement that both the perception, quote, and the reality is that the united states is, quote, the world's bully? >> i didn't hear her say that, by the way, united states and i think my comment was it's irrelevant in good observation. i don't think i said that i agree. >> sean: jay sekulow, your reaction? >>
FOX News
Feb 11, 2013 8:00am PST
the president's foreign policy priorities ought to be, looking at response to the turmoil of the arab spring, dealing with russia wouldn't seem to be anyone's natural first priority right now. jenna: one of the arguments, though, for doing this, according to "the new york times," is it would save a lot of money. if we don't have to keep these nuclear weapons and store them and watch them, that's going to save us a lot of cash, and we know the type of financial situation we're in right now. why isn't that a good argument? >> one, everyone would like to save cash, but really we've had $5 trillion added to our national debt over recent years, and maintenance of our nuclear strategic capability contributed nothing to that. and the proposed cuts, they say, would reduce about $120 billion in spending over 20 years, which is really a drop in the wasn't compared -- bucket compared to approaching $20 trillion in national debt. the second is the cut into intellectual capabilities well that should be stimulating economic development, research and development and applied technology. hitting these areas,
CNN
Feb 12, 2013 4:00am PST
will be back home by this time yex neanext year. it is a big foreign policy to be made, it's expected to be largely about economic issues and the middle class. >> what do you think, is it going to be partisan or more of an olive branch? >> i don't think it will be either, if i can be so bold as to take something that you're not offering a choice that you're not offering. >> you may take it as always. >> i think he will be assertive. i think he will not perceive, he and the white house will not perceive what he's saying as overtly confrontational. i'm sure it will be interpreted that way. i don't anticipate a big olive branch of a speech. he'll talk about common sense measures republicans have supported in the past and stlu as bipartisan. >> the agenda on immigration, gun control, climate by definition, pre-stage conflict with republicans who are ambivalent at best about moving forward on anything. on the other hand, on the big issue of the debt and deficit, since the summer of 2011 he has signaled that he is willing to make a big deal, including some elements, maybe less than two year
FOX News
Feb 13, 2013 8:00am PST
business is our business. adt. always there. jenna: welcome back, everyone. it's a foreign policy flashback if you will with new concerns today over iran and north korea, two countries singled out by president george w. bush nor than a decade ago during his state of the union address. remember this? >> north korea has a regime arming with missiles and weapons of mass destruction while starving its citizens. iran aggressively pursues these weapons and exports terror while an unelected few reexpress the iranian's people's' hope for freedom. iraq continues to flaunt its hostility toward america and support terror. states like these and these terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil arming to threaten the peace of the world. jenna: well two charter members of the axis of evil iran and north korea both in the spotlight at this year's state of the union. take a listen. >> our challenges don't end with al-qaida. america will continue to lead the effort to prevent the spread of the world's most dangerous weapons. the regime in north korea must know they will only achieve security and prosperity
CBS
Feb 15, 2013 7:00am PST
hagel's foreign policy speeches his income and his qualifications for the job. so in a rare move they filibustered his nomination. >> he is the wrong person at the worst time for the job, this day we can and must do better. >> reporter: republicans say they probably will allow hagel to get confirmed when they come back from recess. democrats say if that's the case, why not just confirm him now? this was supposed to be secretary panetta's last week on the job but j.b. and norah, he says he'll stick around until a new defense secretary is named. >> nancy cordes, thank you so much. >>> double amputee olympian oscar pistorius is denying in "the strongest terms" that he murdered his girlfriend. he was formally charged today in south africa. prosecutors say he planned the shooting. bail hearing has been put off until next week. the track star known as the blade runner openly cried in court. emma hurd from sky news our partner, was at the courthouse. >> reporter: oscar pistorius broke down in tears as the charge of murder was laid against him, his father trying to
KRON
Feb 13, 2013 7:00am PST
and increase on and this is on his foreign- policy legacy. the home medicare proposal came out of left field. for the democratic caucus changing the rules of medicare has been a third rail in terms of their constituency, labor, seniors or what have you. you are potentially taking what was a program for everyone and turning it into a test. >> that is going to be a big problem for the president with the caucus. the question is what he is doing he is linking it as trade bait to tax reform. he is basically saying he wants all these things refunded, universal preschool. manufacturing job hopeubs . the only way we will get money is that we trade with republicans for something. i will put medicare on the table. >> the big debate was gun- control. the listen. gabrielle gifford deserves a vote. (cheers & applause) the families of new town deserve a vote. >> the families of borah deserve a vote. the families of tucson and blacks were in the cow was of the communities affected by gun violence and deserve a simple vote. >> (cheers & applause) even if you're going to vote no at least a vote. that has bee
CBS
Feb 13, 2013 7:00am EST
tough critics of president obama's foreign policy. >> let's get this done. send me the bill in the next couple of months and i'll sign it right away. >> reporter: many lawmakers wore green ribbons in solidarity of the newtown, connecticut. in his close president obama asked congress do what they haven't done in nearly two decades. >> if you want to vote no that's your choice but these propoetals deserve a vote. >> reporter: with michelle obama the parents of hadiya pendleton, gunned down after she performed at president obama's inauguration. >> hadiya's parents are here along with americanses who families were torn down by gun violence, they deserve a vote. >> reporter: but asking for a vote is not the same thing as encouraging congress to pass a new law. the president did that on immigration control. charlie and norah? >> major garrett, thanks. senator, good morning. >> good morning. >> deserves a vote. >> first of all, our heart is broken for those people. all of us would want to prevent that from happening. the problem is everything the presiden
FOX News
Feb 16, 2013 6:00am EST
by the hillary clinton president for. 3:00 a.m. every president faces a foreign policy crisis. do you want this man, senator barack obama answering that phone call at 3:00 a.m.? well, it turns out, suddenly a relevant question. >> suddenly a relevant question because on the afternoon of september 11th, 2012, of course the day of the benghazi attacks that unfolded, there was some question now at least being raised by republican congressman louie gohmert as to why -- how responsive was the president during this entire time? well, we know in the afternoon he did speak with his. >> leon panetta and general demps is i. >> 5:00 p.m. in the afternoon. louie gohmert raising this point 3:00 a.m. and whether or not he was able to sleep through all of these unfolding problems in benghazi, listen. >> president required a sleep aid that night but if he did, anybody else in america has trouble sleeping, you better get what he had because it works well. how the president of the united states could sleep that night as the ambassador that he put in place, that he put in harm's way was under attack or he ha
CNN
Feb 15, 2013 1:00pm PST
very well. that's about him. but do they like the president's foreign policy? no. so these things kind of blend but generally you could say that for national security republicans, these two nominees, brennan on drones, for example, the use of drones, these nominees become proxies for policies they either question or they don't like. >> and moving forward, we're moving into this second term and the kind of makeup of congress is relatively speaking the same. how much do you think this will impact this hold on nominees, impact the relationship between republicans and democrats? it it can't get much worse. >> the white house isn't happy over hagel. they believe it's petty to hold him up when they believe he's going to eventually get confirmed. so they are not happy about it. republicans need to work with the white house on issues like immigration, for example, will this make for bad blood? yes. will it hold up immigration reform if it's in the interest of both parties to do it, probably not. i think the person who gets affected by this, quite honestly, is chuck hagel himself because he's g
CNN
Feb 12, 2013 6:00am PST
is the president going to say. we've just learned what his big foreign policy announcement is going to be, jake tapper just broke that the president will announce on afghanistan that u.s. troops will be reduced by half by february of 2014, the number of u.s. troops in afghanistan will go down to 34,000, that's specificity we didn't have before and we expect him to detail tonight. carol, by and large the president will be focusing a lot on domestic priorities, specifically the economy. >> mr. speaker, the president of the united states. >> reporter: how times have changed. when he addressed congress one year ago, president obama faced sagging poll numbers and a tough road to re-election. the result? a state of the union address that contained few new proposals and largely fell flat, not likely this year. >> his party gained seats in both the senate and the house. the american people broadly speaking are with him and so he can deliver a speech without the kinds of political constraints that he faced just 12 months ago. >> reporter: white house officials tell cnn that tonight's address will book e
CSPAN
Feb 17, 2013 7:00am EST
more. foreign policy, it is 51% to 37%. theresa, nevada. caller: regarding president obama using executive orders to go around the republicans in the house, i am all for it. i am aware that this is a two- party democracy and we need republicans to be reasonable working party, but they have not been. the president has no choice but to go around them. john boehner has walked away. i am frustrated and the country is frustrated, other democrats are frustrated and scared. i am scared of the things they're willing to do to our country. he is doing what he has to do. i am all for his proposals, all for clean energy and comprehensive immigration, i am for gun legislation. i am for all of them. i am center-left, that is progressive. i think the country is definitely going progressive. i do not understand where the republicans want to obstruct and go with their small mindedness and small government proposals that they think that they can push through on the american people that i do not think are very popular. host: we have a different opinion from twitter. host: david wright's in on twitt
ABC
Feb 13, 2013 1:40am PST
today. >> the president sprinkled in foreign policy matters, but h focus was firmly here at home. with the details, we're joined by abc's marci gonzalez. >> reporter: the president detailed his second term agenda the big focus here d >> the prideuni states. thank you. >> reporter: president obama touching on topics from education to strengthening the middle class. >> it is our unfinished task to make sure this government works on behalf of the many, not just the few. >> reporter: a noticeable presence of small ribbons worn by the more that be 40 invited guests, all victims or related to victims of gun violence. >> it has been two months since newtown. i know this is not the first time this country has debated how to reduce gun violence. but this time is different. >> reporter: the president also announced that half of the troops now serving in afghanistan, about 34,000, will be home by this time next year. but the focus remains primarily on the economy, with several proposals, including a plan to raise the middle wage. >> tonight, let's declare that in the wealthiest nation on ea
MSNBC
Feb 16, 2013 5:00am PST
touching on a whole range of domestic issues as well as turning to some of the foreign policy that -- items on his agenda. i thought the way that he dealt with the difference between his domestic policy call for gun violence and his -- his call on immigration was really, really notable. particularly because those are the two things in the administration now. this was the rallying moment of the state of the union was this very dramatic crescendo around gun violence when he talked about the victims of some of the mass shootings. >> senators of both parties are working together on tough new laws to prevent anyone from buying guns for resale to criminals. each of these proposals deserve as vote in congress. one of those we lost was a young girl named nadia pendleton. he was 15 years old. she loved figure newtons and lip gloss. she was a majorette. she was so good to her friends that they all thought they were her best friend. just three weeks ago she was here in washington with her classmates perfect forming for her country at my inauguration. and a week later, she was shot and killed in a chic
MSNBC
Feb 16, 2013 9:00am PST
military and deals heavily with our foreign policy, you need someone that can get the trust of the u.s. senate. if you've had someone that's broken a lot of personal connections and has really upset, anger and inflamed a large portion of the u.s. senate, maybe they're not the best choice for the position. >> jimmy, is there anything about this that says, look, this is a weakness on president obama's part? he's unable to get as a second-term president even his cabinet confirmed without this kind of melee. >> no, i think basically its illustrative of where we are in modern politics. i expect these kinds of things from the house. i expect the majority to rule over the minority in the house whether that's democrats or the republicans. that's the way the founding fathers set it up. but the senate was always supposed to be a club of 100, a cozy place. when i worked there, you could have disagreements on the floor. but off the camera, you had staffers, including me, running around, making deals, what do you need? i'll give you this if you give me this. this is what my boss needs. that's how
CSPAN
Feb 14, 2013 10:00am EST
" focusing on foreign policies issues ahead on capitol hill. host: and now on your screen is representative elliot engel, democrat of new york and in the 113th congress the ranking member, the top democrat on the foreign affairs committee. representative engel, as always, we appreciate you being on the "washington journal." from that perch in the foreign affairs committee, what's your -- what are some of your issues this year that you'd like to confront? guest: well, obviously the president spoke at the state of the union the other night, talked about winding down the war in afghanistan finally and removing american troops. when the troops are actually all removed, still negotiations between us and the afghanis about what american presence will be afterwards. but that's, i think, something that the american people are tired of and happy to see winding down. we also, of course, have the volatile middle east, where we have the arab spring and egypt and syria, of course, in the throes of a civil war. assad brutally killing his own people. clearly he's going to go. the question is who comes in
CBS
Feb 15, 2013 7:00am EST
on the job. no one, no one knows, especially any united states senator, what foreign challenge will face this country perhaps in the next ten d days. >> reporter: republicans say they still have questions about his policies, income, and qualifications for the job so in a rare move they filibustered him for the job. >> this time we can and must do better. >> reporter: republicans say they probably will allow haig toll get confirmed when they come back from recess. democrats say if that's the case whierks not just confirm him now? this was supposed to be panetta's last day on the job but he said he'll stick around until a new secretary jof defene is picked. >>> prosecutors in south africa say it was premeditated and more serious charges are coming. the track star known as the blade runner openly cried in court this morning and emma hurd was in court. >> reporter: oscar pistorius broke down in tears, his father trying to comfort him. they've brought in their top prosecutors to handle this case. it's setting the stage for real courtroom drama here. it was a return to the global stage for all
FOX News
Feb 12, 2013 3:00am PST
third nuclear test overnight. the therapy of the house foreign affairs committee just weighed in. he says the obama administration must replace its failed north korean policy with one that is energetic, creative and focused on crippling the kim regime's military capabilities through stringent sanctions. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot has the late nest london. you moved from the pope's story to this world crisis now, greg. >> yeah, crazy week. the world, in fact, got a bit more dangerous overnight. u.n. officials, i was speaking to a few minutes ago, confirmed to me that they believe the north korea has tested yet another nuclear device. but most importantly, they tell me this device is twice as powerful as the one they detonated in 2009. they base that on seismic measurements they're taking from the test site. north korea today claiming they have tested a smaller, more sophisticated device, which means, according to my contacts in north korea and korea that i've been speaking to, this could be better put on top of a missile. remember, in december, north korea had th
FOX News
Feb 12, 2013 8:00am PST
on capitol hill blasting the obama administration, the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, republican ed royce, is calling on the administration to replace what he calls a failed north korea policy. chief white house or correspondent ed henry is live on the north lawn. ed, do we expect the president to mention this north korea mess in his state of the union speech tonight? and if so, if i may, how does it fit into his agenda? >> reporter: sure, arthel. bottom line is the president's aides say he is likely to mention this essentially failed test by the north koreans tonight. they are deeply concerned here at the white house, though, that know keeps doing these tests. as you say, the president put out a written statement calling this provocative, and they're basically saying, though, in the end it didn't really work, is so they don't think north korea is as far along in their nuclear program as certainly north korea hopes. nonetheless, we think the president will mention it, not dwell on it tonight. instead, he wants to talk about the economy and jobs according to top aides.
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